posted Jan. 23rd, 2013 - 7:43am
Jack York says:
Are you going to write on the subject of what the NAHL west will do when it comes to the 2013 14 season with wenatchee moving to the BC? Like where will expansion teams be placed or will the two alaska teams be likely to join the BC as well?
Fresno is likely toast.
Alaska teams will fly in and out of Detroit, Minneapolis, or Chicago to play in either the Central, North, or possibly even a new division centered around Chicago.
Think Minnesota, Coulee Region, Janesville, Springfield, Kenai River, and Fairbanks
Yea that makes sense let a team that I belive lead the league in attendance go by the way side and bring a team to the twin cities that I gaurentee will be gone in 3 years!
Fresno will likely end up back where they started, with the WSHL team packing it in with what could easily become the very best AAU team in the country. They can recruit globally, reduce fees to nothing, and provide a fantastic experience for players and fans alike.
For Fresno fans, it means raising a lot of Championship banners.
more like gone in 1-2 years. Fresno, Ice dogs, and Kenai River would be best to fallow the Wild and join the BCHL where they dont need to worry about who is in or out on a yearly basis.
Any guesses on who the minor pro teams are that applied to the NAHL? My guesses are Wheeling, Elmira and possibly Danbury.
Texas Brahmas and Alaska Aces could also be on that list. Consider Bloomington as well.
If it's Alaska, Fresno re-ups.
Ahhhh feels good to be back.
So the Texas Brahmas of the CHL are talking about coming to the NAHL? For the 2013-2014 season?
Any new words about the Tornado's move to Laredo?
Also, last Saturday me and about 7 other Bulls fans went to check out the "roach motel" first hand....yes it was bad, however, it was not bad as you made it out to be. Those pictures you posted I think are a little out-dated. We toured about 5 rooms and they all seemed "decent"..it's far from a Hilton tho. I don't know if they're currently remodeling or what but it does look like some renovations have been done, and of course we couldn't tour all the rooms but the ones we saw seemed "alright". But I do agree with you now in saying that yes, these players do deserve better. But with it already being late January I highly doubt anything will be done this season..I'd look for a new host hotel for 2013-2014.
Question.What would be the advantage to Kenai River and Fairbanks to stay in the NAHL? Would it not be better to follow the Wild into the BCHL? I just don't see flying to Detroit, Chicago etc as being economically smart.As for the two applications I would bet they would come from the CHL which I can't see going on much longer.Brahma fans won't like or support it but the plus there would be you would only have to replace 1500 at best fans which should not be hard to do in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area.
posted Jan. 23rd, 2013 - 1:53pm
Jon Hart says:
Now you've done it again Stephen throwing the Brahmas out there putting their fanbase in a tizzy. I'm just not entirely convinced the Tornado leave Frisco, they seem to be sustainable where they are. Laredo is a bit of a crap shoot to me perhaps a year away from hockey it will sorta be something new but not sure how that will work out.
Jon, I said could...
Consolidated Sports Holdings has the option on Laredo. There is not much of a secret that CSH is less than thrilled with the six-figure number in red. Simply stated, it costs more to operate in that facility than it would in Laredo.
Will CSH exercise that option and purchase a third NAHL membership, or simply move the one they have that is in the red?
Frankenfeld wants a Dallas area team and North Richland Hills could be his only shot. CSH blocked New Mexico's Ken Dennis from that very building for this season.
Fairbanks has been paying the freight for teams to come to Alaska for more than 25 years. The Ice Dogs gross revenues are in excess of a million dollars a year with expenses falling well below that number.
Flying to the Midwest or flying to the west coast is really not that much more expensive.
Kenai and Fairbanks play each other 16 times this season, look for that number to grow to 20 for next. That increase more than covers the extra cost of flying to the mid-west.
Fresno should go back to the ECHL. Fairbanks and Kenai River would be a better fit in the BCHL. I think an OHL team would do much better in Buffalo then a second tour in North Bay. Alot of people hate on the NAHL but they offer affordable, competitive hockey to a wide geographic range of fans who otherwise wouldn't have none!
BCHL would never take the Alaska teams... they have already been asked.
ECHL is losing markets in California, not winning them.
The ideal situation for the West Division would be for a team to set up shop in Anchorage, giving the Alaska teams another opponent, and then for the NAHL to work on getting teams associated with the LA Jr. Kings, Anaheim Jr. Ducks and San Jose Jr. Sharks. This is obviously a pipe dream and will never happen because it is actually logical and we know how Franky hates logic.
As far as the minor-league squads, my guess would definitely be Fort Worth( especially if Laredo and/or RGV comes to fruition) along with Bloomington or Quad City.
posted Jan. 27th, 2013 - 12:16am
Jon Hart says:
Well I've also seen on twitter(one of your biggest Brahma fans btw) that the Americans aren't doing so well in the monetary department. I know it's a far reach for this idea, but could or would it be possible that the Tornado go to Laredo. Allen and North Richland Hills get NAHL franchises? NyTex sold their majority share of the Brahmas, and the new owners have had a few games at the FWCC so to me that means they would be looking to move back there possibly next season. I know your "unamed-source" (as Kirk likes to call them) in the Junior Council says 2 minor-pro teams have given NAHL applications to Mark. In a perfect world CSH buys the Bucks moniker and moves the eligible Tornado roster to Laredo, Allen buys the Tornado moniker with a new franchise or stays the Americans with perhaps a different logo, and the Brahmas stay the Brahmas in NyTex. They also sign off on the silly 75 mile radius rule.
I still don't understand why Texas/CSH didn't allow New Mexico to move to NRH, it's not like there are any Brahmas fans at the Dr. Pepper Arena that would have suddenly stopped coming to games. Dumb move imo.
CSH just blocked another NAHL team from talking about a move to Laredo, I can only imagine that means CSH has plans for the border town.
Doug Miller's real business is BOOMING, the Americans are his toy, so no worries there. I do know that a number of CHL owners were in Phoenix earlier this week for a meeting in regards to a discussion about junior hockey.
From what I've been told, the Brahmas name belongs to the building while the CHL team is being operated by another. With more and more dates being moved downtown, the building is wanting to have a full-time tenant, even if that means they have to own it themselves.
One addition... it's a VERY long busride from Prescott Valley to Brantford, Ontario.
The only problem about the CHL going junior is it will be operated by the CHL.
If the CHL pulls the trigger, it's going to be on like Donkey Kong in regards to recruitment and roster protection.
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