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Daily Dish: Robertson Cup Update and Picks - Junior Hockey News


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Published: Saturday, 5 May 2012
By: Stephen Heisler  |  Web site: JuniorHockey.com

Day 2 Results

St. Louis Bandits (#3, 1-1) vs. Bismarck Bobcats (#2, 1-1)

Result: 3-2 Bismarck

The Bandits allowed the Bobcats to rally with a pair of third period goals to take the win.

 
Fairbanks Ice Dogs (#4, 1-1) vs. Amarillo Bulls (#1, 1-1)

Result: 3-1 Fairbanks

That Friday overtime win over rival Texas proved to be taxing on the Bulls when they faced the defending champion Ice Dogs. Fairbanks was feeling the pressure after the opening day loss to St. Louis.

 
Texas Tornado (#6, 1-1) vs. Port Huron Fighting Falcons (#5, 1-1)

Result: 5-4 Texas

The Tornado and Fighting Falcons were lighting the lamp Saturday night in Frisco as teams combined for 9 goals. Texas got the win and knotted the entire field at 1-1.

My first record after two days: 2-4. Yikes.

 
Day 3 Picks

Bismarck Bobcats (#2, 1-1) vs. Amarillo Bulls (#1, 1-1)

Bobcats' bench boss Layne Sedevie must have told the Brigl that he was going to play the guys he wanted to and inserted Donald Olivieri back into the line-up for Friday's game. All the Philadelphia native did was light the lamp and ignite his team. Meanwhile, the Bulls were corralled by Fairbanks in the afternoon game. Bismarck is a combined minus three and needs the win to advance. I don't see that happening so say good-bye to Coach Layne and watch Amarillo skate into the semi-finals.

Port Huron Fighting Falcons (#5, 1-1) vs. Fairbanks Ice Dogs (#2, 1-1)

It is always tough to beat the host team and Port Huron was unable to get passed the Tornado on Friday night. Fairbanks however was able to redeem themselves against the top seeded Bulls. I have to stick with the Ice Dogs for this game but believe it will be a one-goal game and that will send both teams into the semi-final.

Texas Tornado (#6, 1-1) vs. St. Louis Bandits (#3, 1-1)

The loser of this one is going home unless Fairbanks drops a bomb on Port Huron (or vice-versa). The Tornado have played two really close games and should expect more of the same tonight. There is no way I will ever pick Texas over the Bandits, so St. Louis is going to turn the lights off on Tony Curtale's career in Frisco tonight.

Day 2 of the crossovers proved to be full of surprises and everyone goes into the final day tied at 1-1. Port Huron has the best chances of advancing if they are one of the losers today, but we could still see a heck of a mess at the end of the day.






Discuss:

posted May. 5th, 2012 - 12:15pm
Cory Deeds-Rookstool says:
Today looks to be some great matchups. I'll take Bismarck in an upset over Amarillo,Port Huron to beat the Dogs and (although it pains me) St. Louis will blow over the Tornado.

posted May. 5th, 2012 - 1:05pm
Randy Russon says:
Come on, Port Huron. Just win, baby.

posted May. 5th, 2012 - 5:16pm
Stephen Heisler says:
Bismarck 0 2 0 2
Amarillo 1 3 2 6

Bulls win brings me to 3-4!

posted May. 5th, 2012 - 5:58pm
Kirk Estes says:
Based on the first two games Saturday, the Tornado will be playing again Monday even with a loss as long as the loss is not by more than 7 goals.

"The top two teams in each pool will advance to the semifinal round, to be played Monday May 7th. However, should all three teams in one pool go 3-0 in the round-robin, all teams from that pool will advance to the semi-finals. The team with the best goal differential in the opposite pool will also move on to the semi-finals. Similarly, if all three teams from one pool go 2-1, the same rules apply. Goal differential will be used as the first tiebreaker, while goal quotient will be used as the second tiebreaker. By dividing goals scored by goals allowed, positions will be determined based on the highest quotient"

posted May. 5th, 2012 - 5:59pm
Stephen Heisler says:
Port Huron 2 1 0 3
Fairbanks 1 1 2 4

Fairbanks win pulls me back to even...
Fighting Falcons should also advance.

posted May. 5th, 2012 - 6:02pm
Kirk Estes says:
St Louis must defeat the Tornado to advance to semi-final play. A loss would give them the same record as Port Huron but the Falcons are a +2 in goal differential where with a loss the best St Louis could be is 0 on point differential.


posted May. 5th, 2012 - 11:03pm
Jon Hart says:
So because Port Huron was 3rd in their pool they get shafted even though they had the same record and a better goal differential than Texas? Man, and I thought the BCS was screwed up.

posted May. 5th, 2012 - 11:18pm
Stephen Heisler says:
Texas 1 0 1 0 2
St. L 0 0 2 1 3

posted May. 6th, 2012 - 12:23am
Kirk Estes says:
"So because Port Huron was 3rd in their pool they get shafted even though they had the same record and a better goal differential than Texas? Man, and I thought the BCS was screwed up."

The top two teams in each pool advance.

Had Port Huron advanced rather than Texas I would argue that it was the Tornado who got shafted as they won the head-to-head match up with Port Huron and Texas' record was 1-0-2 due to the two overtime losses as opposed to Port Huron's 1-2-0 record by way of two regulation losses.

posted May. 6th, 2012 - 1:33am
Jon Hart says:
How could you say Texas got shafted when they get an automatic bid and were swept by Topeka in the divisional semi-finals. I understand there is a time crunch but why not a 1 game playoff? Heck you could of had a 20 minute mini game after Texas lost in OT, wasn't that last years tie-breaker solution?

posted May. 6th, 2012 - 2:05am
Mark Meyers says:
not everyone is going to be happy in the results but if there were points awarded for each game and not just off of record alone, texas would advance. and they won the head to head. I dont see how people could complain. the rules were set up before the tournament and no one argued with them then

posted May. 6th, 2012 - 10:07am
Stephen Heisler says:
For the sake of argument... one could say that Corpus Christi got shafted because they had a much stronger bid than Frisco...but that bid was not allowed to be considered.

Lets just go on record with this... the NAHL will always slant the table to favor Tony Curtale as long as his former assistant coach, Mark Frankenfeld, is running the show.

What would really take all the BS out of the equation is a simple final four format. The four division champions come in, play the semi-finals on Friday, 3rd place and championship on Saturday.

Yes, I can see the NAHL going back to four divisions.

posted May. 6th, 2012 - 4:31pm
Jon Hart says:
I thought 5 divisions was strange to begin with, I understand the host team getting a bid for incentive to host the tournament but let's not kid ourselves Stephen. As much as I really would have loved to have watched the tournament in Corpus Christi would anyone want to watch the IceRays? They didn't even make the playoffs. I loved watching our guys night in and night out but don't tease us anymore. Just so long as Fairbanks repeats or St. Louis wins I think most people will be happy!

posted May. 6th, 2012 - 4:52pm
Stephen Heisler says:
John,
I like a "Final-Four" without a host team or a simple three-division set up with a host team in on the final four. Having to play five games in six days is crazy when we are talking about potential student athletes with some even still in school.


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