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Apr 18, 2012 - 07:58 am
Daily Dish: Bismarck and Aberdeen Violate Tier II Rules?

Some say rules are meant to be broken, in the case of the Bismarck Bobcats and Aberdeen Wings of the North American Hockey League, the rules were open to interpretation. The Bobcats have been forcing players to pay for their ...
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Re: Daily Dish: Bismarck and Aberdeen Violate Ti...
Apr 18, 2012 - 07:58 am
Way to rake the muck, Stephen. Awesome reporting.

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Re: Daily Dish: Bismarck and Aberdeen Violate Ti...
By: Stephen Heisler   * Administrator
Apr 18, 2012 - 08:43 am
Matt,
I did everything possible to get the players refunded before having to out the offending teams.


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Apr 18, 2012 - 11:24 am
Wow, frankly Stephen I think some of the stories reported in the past have been biased, however, if this is true it is a pathetic violation and the players should be reimbursed and the offending organizations appropriately punished.

We all know that the NAHL is poor mans version of the USHL. The teams don't cost as much to buy and run but most lose money. Most owners accept the financial burden and prudently try to limit it. Yes they provide sticks but not the top of the line, yes they provide rooms and meals on the road but 3-4 to a room and pizza after games (pizza because of cost is a post game staple even at the NCAA level).

However, to force athletes to pay for a trainer is ridiculous and the NAHL should come down hard and fast on this practice, even if one of the involved owners is a league governor.

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Re: Daily Dish: Bismarck and Aberdeen Violate Ti...
By: Stephen Heisler   * Administrator
Apr 18, 2012 - 11:36 am
Steven,
The funny part is that the teams are not denying the allegations, they are fighting over the the word "shall".


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Apr 18, 2012 - 02:34 pm
Maybe the players "shall" only give 100% if the owners do too...Everyone knows "shall" means "must" and not "should" or "can." It's absurd that these teams penny pinch like this and make the players suffer along the way

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Re: Daily Dish: Bismarck and Aberdeen Violate Ti...
By: RS
Apr 18, 2012 - 02:45 pm
I am new in this forum, is the NAHL league that bad? NAHL teams states in their website their most equipment will be provided. My son is a goalie..what does "most" really mean?

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Apr 18, 2012 - 03:28 pm
I think it is sad that a few clubs doing something incorrectly can make people think it is the entire league. There are many clubs doing it not only right, but better then most. Wenatchee, Topeka, Corpus, and Texas are just a few examples.

RS, NO the league isn't that bad, it is a great league. There are always a few bad apples in ANY league - including the USHL.

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Re: Daily Dish: Bismarck and Aberdeen Violate Ti...
By: Randy Russon   * Moderator
Apr 18, 2012 - 03:33 pm
The NAHL, I am sure, has its issues. Just as the Ontario Hockey League, Northern Ontario Jr. Hockey League, United States Hockey League, Western States Hockey League etc. etc. all have. I have been covering junior hockey since 1975. I have searched for the perfect league with the perfect owners and the perfect commissioners and have yet to find any.

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Apr 18, 2012 - 05:00 pm
While I agree whole-heartedly with everything that you wrote on this topic, you will find "volumes" on contractual law regarding the word "shall". The word "shall" is the most MISUSED word in legal language. Most lawyers are taught to look for this word in contracts and ask to have it removed. The Old English definition of this word is used to describe a status or something that will occur in the future. Something like:
"I think I shall get my haircut next week".

This statement does not mean I "will" get my haircut, only eventually..
These owners are as Dumb as a Fox, they know they could get away with this. Unless USAH rewrites these rules, the unscrupulous owners of the Juniors teams will do anything to make additional money...

Stephen, keep exposing these creeps. I will never support any team that does this to our young players...

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Re: Daily Dish: Bismarck and Aberdeen Violate Ti...
By: NAHLFAN
Apr 18, 2012 - 09:35 pm
The Bismarck Bobcats orginization is a complete joke. This season the NAHL had 28 hockey clubs. The oldest team in the entire league is the Bobcats with 12 1991 birthdates. With only one D-1 Commitment on the entire roster it proves that the orginization is not making the steps to move players on. In fact no one really trusts Head Coach Layne Sedevie Sommer commited before he joined BIZ, Layne obviously was aware that players were forced to pay for workouts. The Owners main goal is to make money which is not what the NAHL is about. the team violates the league intermission rule which states that intermissions must not be longer than 17 minutes, Bismarck has 22 minute intermissions. A team that finshed in first place in the division should have more d-1commitments. I feel really bad for the players that have tendered with Bismarck this franchise was once legit when they had a bench boss that had a legitimete resume.

Aberdeen involved with this is really sad. With one of the wealthiest owners in the league this should never be an issue.

With the recent news coming out about these teams it looks like Austin has the brightest future as far as success goes in the division...

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Re: Daily Dish: Bismarck and Aberdeen Violate Ti...
Apr 19, 2012 - 08:31 am
For as many good owners the league has you wonder why they allow all of this stuff happen and not put an end to it. Each BOG has a vote and they can fix problems by voting. They chose to put Frankenfeld in charge to handle problems as an employee of the league instead of owners just fixing the root cause.

Frankenfeld is a politician tells you what you want to hear and never does anything to really fix the problem. He has had problems with is Ethics going all they way back to his short AAA era when he got fired for trying to do a side deal with out letting all the board members know. His characters has big gaping holes.

As far as Frankenfeld protecting players that's a complete joke. He is there for the league and to protect the owners in Albert Lea he said he would protect the players and each player was released. If you son is having problems do not trust going to Frankenfeld if he wants to continue to play in the league is past track record proves his morals. It seems like the only person who is protecting players rights is Stephen by exposing all the bad decision owners are making.


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